Howling Bells
Live @ Oxford Zodiac

May 20, 2006
Interview & Photography: Steve Bateman

“Howling Bells possess a sound reminiscent of another town, another time. They'll take you to a place far eerier than Twin Peaks, and they'll spirit you to the abandoned Old West, to a town shrouded in snowfall, illuminated by a campfire. In this town, the beguiling melodies of this four-piece will reel and roll about your head like desire and anticipation – the twin themes of this, their debut album. Lurching from addictive blues-fuelled rock to country-folk lamentations, the album will ring in your ears long past listening.” – Online Review Extract

Indie Noir and even Gothic, are just a couple of the many labels that have been used to describe Howling Bells’ haunting and evocative music, as both the band and their slow-burning songs, not only have a deep intensity, but they also have an intriguing aura of mystique which surrounds them.

Interestingly, this will most likely result in the same kind of cult fan devotion, that classic bands such as Joy Division, The Smiths, Depeche Mode, Nirvana, The Smashing Pumpkins, Manic Street Preachers, Suede and Radiohead, have, and will always experience. As above all else, like the very best groups and artists throughout the history of popular music, Howling Bells are believable, and they are a band that you can believe in!

Hailing from Sydney, Australia, they are made up of sister and brother, Juanita Stein (vox / guitar) and Joel Stein (guitars), along with Brendan Picchio (bass) and Glenn Moule (drums). Comparisons to the likes of PJ Harvey, Nick Cave, Kate Bush, My Bloody Valentine, Mazzy Star, Black Rebel Motorcycle Club and The Duke Spirit, are inevitable. But what sets Howling Bells apart from their contemporaries, besides their stellar musicianship and sound, is Juanita’s soulful and silky voice – which could melt even the coldest of hearts.

Notably, Juanita feels that “there’s still a lot of underground music yet to be recognised in Australia, which isn’t just rock, and Howling Bells would love to think that they’re a part of that.” She would also like to see the Music Industry “boast many more interesting female artists.”

Today, is the second time that I’ve had the pleasure of meeting the band, having previously photographed them in Bristol – and they are really, really nice people! Everyone was pleased to see me again for R*E*P*E*A*T’s interview, which the charming and very beautiful Juanita, kindly did on the band’s Tour Bus, following their fine show at the Oxford Zodiac.

Like many other music fans, you may even have caught Howling Bells on the recent NME New Music Tour, or when they supported the Editors, or The Cooper Temple Clause. If not, you’ll be able to see them playing live throughout July and August, on their own Headline Tour, and at selected Summer Festivals including Reading and Leeds.

Unsurprisingly, they are regarded as, “The Jewel In The Crown of Bella Union’s 2006 Roster,” and now that their critically-acclaimed eponymous debut album, is finally available to buy in the UK – having been ready for over a year and preceded by the singles, Wishing Stone and Blessed Night. It has become the fastest-selling release on the label, with 8,000 copies sold since its release on May 8th!

So if you love music that is inspired, that is rich in texture, that has a wistful air of melancholia to it, and that is delivered with passion and conviction, then the deliciously dark dreamscapes of Howling Bells may just be for you…

Lucy: Your band have been quite quiet for the last few months. Are you looking forward to playing gigs again?
Katie Jane Garside: I think I give very obtuse ans

1.The Rolling Stones famously sang, “I know it’s only rock ‘n’ roll, but I like it.” But do you think music is, or can be more, than just rock ‘n’ roll?
“I suppose it depends on what you’re striving for you know? What is it that you want, and what is it that you really want to say to people? But my religion isn’t rock ‘n’ roll – I’m into a lot more than that! I’m into the mystique and the atmosphere and the strangeness of music, and there is a lot of that in rock ‘n’ roll, but (pausing), I like everything (laughing), not just rock ‘n’ roll – I LOVE EVERYTHING! I grew up in a house full of music, so I’d feel like I would be favouring just one kind, when there’s a whole Universe full of love and energy, and different kinds of music. But for some people (laughing)…”

2.You’ve recently commented on how passionate you’ve found British music fans?
“Yeah! I mean we’re passionate about music at home in Australia, but, the idea of being in a band, isn’t taken that seriously. I remember the first interview that I did in Britain – I was blown away by how seriously the interviewer took the idea of being in a band, and music in general. I was like, “Wow, we haven’t even put out a single yet (laughing)!” But, he was talking to me, as though I was as important as any other band you know, and I was really taken with that idea. Because it’s quite jokey at home – “Oh, you’re in a band? When are you going to get a real job? Blah, blah, blah…”
*I tell Juanita that you can buy a T-shirt which says, ‘NO JOB, NO MONEY, NO CAR. BUT I'M IN A BAND’*
“I’ve seen that T-shirt, yeah (laughing). And it’s kind of like in LA, where all of the girls with big breasts walk around with T-shirts saying, ‘I'M AN ACTRESS’ (laughing). But yeah, it’s incredible, and the amount of passion and energy that the fans give to you, is very new to us. I suppose Europe as well, we toured there once and it’s different, but there’s this level of (pausing), they’re very serious about music. As a musician, you give out a certain amount of passion and energy, and you want that back, and we get that here – and that’s what I respond to (smiling)!”

3.To give us an idea of some of your musical influences and tastes, which songs / artists would you play, if you were to DJ at a special Howling Bells Club Night?
“Oh, it would be a strange night (laughing)! Actually, we did a DJing thing yesterday – me, Joel and Glenn did it. We played everything from like, Beat It by Michael Jackson (giggling), to Judy Garland’s Somewhere Over The Rainbow, to some (pausing), we’re really into kind of offbeat electronic bands, from Colder to Wagon Christ, to Sereena Maneesh – who are a great shoegazer band from Sweden – to Ulrich Schnauss. I mean there’s some beautiful, wonderful music out there, and lots of bands who aren’t afraid to explore different territories. Like I said, not just play rock ‘n’ roll you know? So that’s kind of what we’d play if we were to DJ. In terms of influences, like I said, I grew up with loads and loads of music, because our Dad’s a musician – so everything that he used to listen to, which was like, Tom Waits, Bob Dylan, The Beatles, The Pretenders… all the good old stuff! And then, I adore soundtrack music! I adore old French films, and that really romantic notion of music aching and breaking hearts all over a film. I love Wild West soundtracks too! So yeah, I’m really into the romance of music, and every time I hear a beautiful song, I know it’s affected me, if I close my eyes, and I instantly imagine myself in the scene of a film. It’s really fantastical for me!”
*As this is R*E*P*E*A*T, I ask Juanita if she likes the Manic Street Preachers*
“I only know some of their songs, like A Design For Life, but I would definitely like to listen to more of their music!”
*I then tell Juanita all about the band, about Richey and his tragic disappearance in 1995, and how much of an Icon he is to true Manics fans – but she can’t believe that he could never really play the guitar properly. She also asks me if I think Richey’s still alive, and I say that I think he is, and I just hope that wherever he is now, that he’s happy*

4.When I first heard your debut single, Wishing Stone, it instantly stopped me in my tracks. What was the last song that had that effect on you?

“Ahh, cool! The last song that did that to me (pausing), I’m trying to think of the last time that I was at a club or something and that happened? Actually, it was the theme song to an old French film called, A Man and A Woman. I didn’t realise how much it had affected me, until I started playing it on the guitar religiously, for like months. I was just playing this theme song, and I didn’t realise where it came from – it was so haunting and so beautiful. It was only when I sat down and I (pausing), because my Mum loves French films too, and I asked her, “Do you know where this is from?” So she sparked the memory, and then I went back and watched it. But the song has the most amazing melody!”

5.As a group, do you feel any kind of music telepathy between you all?
“Absolutely, yeah! I mean obviously Joel’s my brother, so there’s something quite innate and intuitive there, and we’ve been playing together for so long now, it’s like 6 years or something – just mucking around and playing different songs and stuff, and also with Glenn, I’ve been playing for that long. Brendan’s been with us for a few years now, so in that time, you develop a kind of musical intuition, and for this album especially, for most of the songs, we kind of locked ourselves in the house for a month or so. I wrote a lot of the songs in my bedroom, and so they had no input from anyone, and then I’d take them into this room and play them to the guys, and it was usually a matter of an hour, or not even that, before a whole energy just started rolling out. I can’t read or write music (smiling) – but neither can Bob Dylan, and Elvis couldn’t, so that makes me feel good (laughing)! It’s encouraging! But yeah, like I said, I’m very, very visual with the music, so I’ll say to them, “OK, this verse needs to sound like a giant eagle flapping its wings, or this needs to sound like (pausing), I don’t know? Falling down an avalanche or something.” And they know exactly what I’m talking about!”

6.You’ve now been based in the UK since 2004, as you see this country as “the most important place to be, in trying to make a career out of your music.” What do you most enjoy about living here, and what do you most miss about Australia?

“That’s true, but we had a tough time living here, for a long time. I mean it’s vastly, vastly different from home, and to be fair, that’s exactly why we moved here, because Sydney is really easy. The people are so friendly and the lifestyle’s so easy going – we grew up near the ocean, and so there’s a real sense of, “Everything’s going to be OK” you know? If you fall over, people will pick you up, and if you crash your car there, everyone will stop for you. The food’s amazing and the coffee’s amazing – I mean everything’s just great! But, understandably, we were like, “Well, if we’re going to make the record that we want to make, then we’ve got to get the hell out of here, and really challenge ourselves.” So when we first moved over here, for at least 3 months, we were just blown away with the City. I mean it’s just so hard. Man it’s hard. It’s tough! We were living in the shittest part of London, which was Acton, and we were sharing 1 room between the 4 of us, with Glenn’s sister, so that was 5 of us! But there was just no end to the misery and the hardship, and we all had to get shitty jobs. So for me, everyday riding a bus through this part of town and looking around, and seeing these poor migrant women, just dragging their babies down the road (pausing), I’m not doing any favours for it am I (laughing). But I’m just trying to make it obvious, how big a contrast it was. It’s really miserable you know? It’s really hard for people to live there, and I think in a way, that perhaps subconsciously, it contributed to the sadness at times, or the edginess on the album that we made. It just built up in us for a long time, and a lot of artists and musicians are intensely sensitive, and I just found myself crying sometimes in the middle of the day. It’s just sad you know? It’s really tough, and we vented a lot through the music. So there you go (laughing)! Having said that though, I do like the history of this country – but some places are heavier with history than others.”

7.What’s the best advice you’ve ever received?
“I’d love to be able to put it down to one phrase, one witty phrase, but essentially, it’s (pausing). Just watching my Dad – he’s been a struggling musician for like 40 years now or something, and he left home when he was 14 with a guitar on his back, and he’s never, ever, ever, ever given up! He’s never stopped you know, and the last song on our album, is his song, we covered that – I’m Not Afraid. So essentially, that’s it – Don’t Be Afraid! That whole song (pausing), that’s the song that summarises how he’s brought us up, to not be afraid, to be fearless and to have conviction. He would many, many times just look at us, and no matter how hard it would be, just tell us, “If you feel this innately, then why are you even talking to me” you know? Like, “What are you doing here? Get the fuck out of here – GO!” So that’s it, yeah!”
*I say to Juanita, that her Dad must be very proud of her, Joel and the band*
“Oh yeah, he is (smiling)! I mean as I said, it was hard for us for a long time here, and he’d hear that in our voices which was hard. But you know, we’re sending him home reviews and lots of people love the songs we wrote, which makes us really happy in return!”

8.Musically, Howling Bells evolved out of your previous band, Waikiki, as you longed to create songs that had “atmospheric and filmic qualities”?
“Yeah (pausing), I mean Joel doesn’t like to talk about it – Waikiki – at all. He likes to think that Howling Bells is a new thing, that it’s not necessary. But you know, you can’t pretend that you didn’t exist before with certain lives. But it was just a natural evolution, it was like (pausing), you get older you know? You go from being a girl into a woman, and that’s exactly what happened. I was 16 or 17 when I wrote some of the songs in that other band, so essentially, they were very poppy…”
*I tell Juanita that I’ve just ordered a copy of Waikiki’s debut album, I’m Already Home, as well as 2 EPs, from an eBay seller in Australia*
“Oh really (surprised)? Oh wow! It’s really different (giggling), it’s a lot poppier! I mean you might hear some kind of reference to maybe where it was going to go, do you know what I mean? But yeah, it was just natural. The catalyst if you will, was when me and Joel went to see Black Rebel Motorcycle Club back in Australia, 3 maybe 4 years ago? We’d spent so long talking about it, and I remember watching them from the side of the stage, and they were just shrouded in red lights. It was so dark and beautiful, and that definitely pushed the scales that far, and I just looked at Joel and I was like, “OK. ENOUGH – this has got to change (laughing)!”
*Glenn knocks on the door to ask if he can get the keys, for the guys to start loading their equipment into the back of the Tour Bus*

9.Do you believe in destiny, or do you think you make your own path in life?

“I absolutely believe in destiny, yeah! However (pausing), I think it was Björk who once said – they asked her the same question and her answer was, “I don’t believe in destiny, I believe in beautiful chaos,” and I like that idea too! I like that we came from (pausing), I mean we made this ourselves you know, and we faced many, many obstacles and challenges, and had to go through a lot to get here. So there’s a part of me that wants to take credit and go, “No, we did this all ourselves – the World is chaotic and fucked up, but we’ve paved our own path.” But, I’m quite spiritual and religious, so I can’t take the credit, because I believe in a God and I believe that there’s a reason for everything. I don’t always have the answers, but that’s how I feel.”

10.What’s the story behind your name Howling Bells?
“Me and Joel were watching a TV programme one time, and there was something that came up on the screen that said, ‘Howling at the Moon’ – and we were in the middle of discussing what we should call the band. The minute we saw it, it just struck a chord with us, and we kind of worked on it and I guess developed it from there. Howling, is essentially the haunting element of the music that we were writing at the time, and I love the idea of Bells – I just love that their chime is so lonely. They’re always at the top of these churches or chapels in the middle of these Ghost Towns, and they’re just ringing. So yeah, Howling Bells = Melodic and Haunting, and all that stuff (smiling).”

11.You said that in the past, the words you wrote were “coded and disguised,” but that with this album, it’s “heart all out on the table”?
“Yeah, it is, totally! And it’s all part of developing as a person. I was a very, very secretive teenager, and I think a lot of teenagers are (pausing), some are obviously more extroverted than others, but I didn’t play anyone a song I wrote for years. I mean I just had my door locked, and I (adopting a whisper) played so softly, so that nobody would hear me (smiling), which is why it took me so long to raise my voice on stage. The first few years we played in the band, we had so many problems with the sound levels, because I couldn’t sing very loudly, as I was so used to being behind closed doors. So essentially, I spent years (pausing), I was too shy to tell people what I really thought. I went to an extremely religious school, and I totally rebelled against that for a long time, but I think that that played a really big part in how secretive I was. Because you know, most religions are (pausing), you’re taught to kind of disguise your feelings – your sexuality, your happiness and your sadness. It was very repressed and I felt like that for years – I wasn’t allowed to say what I really thought. And then, the older I got and the more I rebelled against it, and the more times I had my heart broken, eventually you sit down one day and you write a song, and it’s all fucking out there! It’s just like, “Argh, this is how I feel!” And that to me, is what Howling Bells is all about!”

12.Are there any particular lyrics that you’ve heard, or any lines of poetry that you’ve read over the years, that have always stayed with you?
“Yeah, God (thinking). I mean growing up to Dylan, there was just like mountains and mountains of stuff, and it just dribbles out of his mouth. I remember hearing lyrics as young as like 8 or 9 years old, and not having any clue as to what they actually meant. But it’s wonderful growing up and slowly decoding all of the lyrics, and figuring out what they do mean! Oh God, I’m trying to think (pausing), it’s a great question and when you want to remember these things, you can’t (laughing). But, I guarantee you that I’ll be riding on the Tour Bus tomorrow, and I’ll be like, “Damn (clicking fingers), I should have said that (smiling).” Um (thinking), well poetry, I don’t read a lot of poetry – I’ll get there, but it’s something I think you’ve got to find, and there’s enough poetry in music to last a lifetime.”
*I recommend Sylvia Plath’s poems to Juanita*
“I’ve been told to start there, yeah! I mean I did literature at University – that’s what I studied, and so I should know this (smiling), I mean I should be able to roll them off my tongue (laughing). But, I was a pretty shit student, I didn’t read all of the books. The last lyric that I heard, that I really connected with was (pausing), it’s a PJ Harvey song, and I love how stark and raw her lyrics are. She has this one song on her album, Stories From The City, Stories From The Sea, called Big Exit, which goes:

I walk on concrete
I walk on sand
But I can’t find
A safe place to stand

I love that idea! And you know what else (excitedly)? I just thought (laughing), there’s another song that I’ve been listening to so much lately, it’s a Dolly Parton song, and it’s called False Eyelashes. The whole song, I just listen to it all the time on the road, and the words in the chorus are (pausing), I mean it’s not particularly profound, but it makes sense to me. The chorus is:

A pair of false eyelashes and a tube of cheap lipstick
A pair of worn-out high heeled shoes and a dress that doesn’t fit
These are all of my possessions, all I have to my name
And a record played in my hometown, is my only claim to fame

I love that! She sings it with (pausing), she’s so young and it’s so like, “I’m trying really hard to make this work” you know? She’s adorable!”
*I mention that I saw Dolly Parton being interviewed on TV once, where she spoke about her own theme park in Tennessee, Dollywood, and then, in reference to her appearance, famously joked, “It takes a lot of money to look this cheap!”
“Exactly (laughing)! And it’s so weird that you’ve said that, because I sent my friend a Birthday Card, 2 weeks ago, with her on the front, and that quote was underneath the photograph (smiling) – “It takes a lot of money to look this cheap!” Yeah (laughing)! Does Dollywood really exist (surprised)? Wow, I never knew that (smiling).”

13.What are your Tour Bus Essentials?

“Our Tour Bus Essentials (giggling)? Space (laughing)! Oh you know, photos of friends and family – we’re actually going back to Australia in June for a month, which we’re all really looking forward to, and I’ll get to see my dog as well, who I really miss, it’s a Shar-Pei. Our other Tour Bus Essentials are, the iPod, and I don’t know how we’d survive without this thing (pointing to the TV), I mean it just keeps us alive – we just watch movies all day, that’s it (smiling)!”
*I ask Juanita which films the band like*
“Well, I just got Rosemary’s Baby, so I’m really looking forward to watching that again! Close Encounters – we watch a lot of old Speilberg movies, like Poltergeist and E.T., stuff like that. Jean-Luc Godard movies, Luc Besson movies, David Lynch movies. Amelie… films just keep us going!”

14.When you do have some free time to yourself, how do you like to spend it?

“Um (thinking), films (laughing)! It’s the closest thing to music that I feel homely with, and I’m also really interested in DVD extras. So films and shopping – if there’s good shops, and I love markets! So just, you know, hanging around.”

15.Is it true, that you chose to sign to Simon Raymonde’s Bella Union label, as they’re “more concerned with how genuine the music is, as opposed to how commercially viable it might be”?

“Absolutely, yeah! They’re a wonderful bunch of people! I mean you can tell just from looking at the roster of bands that they have. They’re not necessarily bands who sell millions of albums you know? I hope they do, but it’s like looking at someone’s record collection – you can tell if they’re genuine about music or not, and Bella Union are definitely genuine about what they do, and which bands they want to have a relationship with. That was a very big factor for us, in deciding who to sign for.”

16.You seem to have a very strong sense of self, and have clearly taken great care and consideration over the band’s style and artwork. Is this important to you?
“Yeah, it is. It’s as important to me as film clips, because it’s all of the accessories that go with the songs. From the way the band looks, to the artwork, to the expression – to everything! You want the artwork to be a really clever and inspiring representation of who the band are. Mikko Rantanen (, who did all of the artwork for our album (pausing), I was flicking through a magazine in London when we first got here, and I saw (pausing), there was one particular image – it was like a river and it was very old, it was almost like Middle Century. But there was this couple who were rowing a boat in the middle of the night, with a full moon, and they were ghosts – you could see through them. And I looked at it, and I just thought, “That is our music – that’s what our music sounds like – so to me, that’s what it would look like!” So we got in touch with him, and within in a week he decided to do it, and he created all of the artwork specifically for the album!”
*I say that the artwork, reminds me a little bit of The Smashing Pumpkins’ Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness album + the Tonight, Tonight video*
“Yeah, yeah, I hadn’t thought of that, but now that you’ve just said that, yeah, you’re right! It’s romantic (smiling)! I’m not sure if we’ll be working with Mikko in the future, but Brendan’s also an artist – he created the sleeve for Wishing Stone – so if we use him, it will be cheaper for us as well (laughing)!”

17.One of the most outstanding aspects of Howling Bells’ music, is your extraordinary voice – but which vocalists do you find inspiring?

“Ahh, thank you. My favourite vocalists are the ones that bleed you know? God, that put it out on the table! The first vocalist that just really, really killed me, was Björk. Like listening to the Sugarcubes, and then when she came out with Human Behaviour, I was just like, “What is this (smiling)?” It was just the concoction of the image and the music and the vocals! So her, and I adore Dusty Springfield – so smoky man! Harriet Wheeler from The Sundays has a gorgeous voice. Juliana Hatfield. Kate Bush. Hope Sandoval has the most beautiful voice. But then there’s (pausing), I adore Blues Music, so there’s like old Gospel singers and Blues singers. It’s just generally voices that don’t have any gates around them you know? They’re not afraid, and they develop their own magical style of communicating!”
*I ask Juanita if she would like to meet any of the artists that she admires*
“No, not really, because my Dad met Bob Dylan once, and he wasn’t very nice to him – which he found devastating. So I’d rather not meet people that I admire, just incase they aren’t very nice, because if they weren’t, I know that I wouldn’t want to play their records again.”

18.Do you have any special memories of places you’ve visited, bands you’ve met, or standout gigs / festivals so far?
“Well, recording the album is my first beautiful memory of this band. In terms of other bands, the first band that we toured with was the Editors – we supported them on their European Tour, and that was the first lot of gigs that we ever did, and the first tour we ever did! We got on with them so well, and they were just so cool to us, and we really grew to love each other as bands you know? So I love them! We’ve met some bands recently, like The Cinematics, and we just did the NME Tour, and all of the bands on that were lovely. We only did 3 of those shows, but on the last night, in Wolverhampton of all places, we ended up at this strip club and we had a wild night! It was just so random, we didn’t even know (laughing). So that was very, very memorable – in a good way! It was a lot of fun (laughing)!”

19.Being on stage is “what you love more than anything.” But what type of experience do you hope that you give to your audience?
“I think about the bands that I’ve connected with live, and what they’ve given to me, and I hope that I do the same thing for our audience. Sometimes, I’ve gone to see bands – and it doesn’t happen very often – but when you see a band or a solo artist, and you just want to get lost you know? I want to get lost in the music and I want to cry sometimes, and I just want to lose myself. I hope that there are parts of our set, where people feel like that and get taken away to another place, because that’s how I feel on stage. If the gig’s good, and you’re not breaking strings like tonight (laughing), essentially it’s all about (pausing), sometimes I forget that there’s an audience there you know? So it’s about being as raw and unleashed, and as uninhibited in your own way, as much as you possibly can. So that doesn’t mean Courtney Love style, tits all over the place (laughing). It means however YOU unleash yourself onto an audience. It’s how YOU do it, and if they feel it – then it’s working!”

20.You recorded your debut album with Ken Nelson, which you described as a “lengthy and emotional process.” Looking back on this experience now, how significant do you think this collaboration was to the band’s development?

“He to me, stands out as one person who was very instrumental in the development of the band. We made a wish list – we were told to make this wish list – and there were like attainable producers and unattainable producers, and Ken was on the unattainable list. We were like, “There’s no way, but we’ll put him down anyway.” We sent him a bunch of demos, we had like 20 songs or something, and his manager got back to us straight away and said, “He’s really interested and he’d love to do it.” We were like, “Wow, that’s amazing!” So it kind of went from there. But I mean we wrote to him, because Coldplay’s A Rush of Blood to the Head, had just come out, and I thought that it was such a beautiful and well-produced album. It was just so warm, and there seemed to be such an emphasis on melody, and it was very organic. As a band, we have a tendency to get really carried away with ourselves – we layer hundreds of harmonies, and so it gets very chaotic. So we wanted someone specifically to make it organic, because we knew that between our fantasy, and say his reality, we’d combine ideas and make something really beautiful (smiling)!”

21.What are your biggest hopes for this record, and for Howling Bells long-term?
“Well, you know, I guess every artist wants their record to be successful. And I want as many people to hear it as possible, and to respond to it in a passionate way, and for it to inspire other people the way that others have inspired me. That’s the dream for us I guess. We grew up listening to bands like (pausing), having our lives changed by music you know? So new bands like Radiohead, or for me, Björk, stuff like that. So in the long-run, that’s what I’d love – I’d love kids to go, “Yeah, I’d love to make an album like Howling Bells,” or something like that, and that’s what you want I think (smiling)!”

22.Lastly, chips or cream buns?
“Can I choose fruit cake? Because I really don’t like chips, which is a bad thing living in England (laughing), because that’s what everybody eats – and I hate cream. So I’ll opt for my favourite kind of treat, which is any cake or dessert with fruit in it – like strawberry tarts, or something like that (laughing)!”

A very special thanks to Juanita, Joel, Brendan and Glenn, to Howling Bells’ Tour Manager Scooby, and to Duncan and Paul @ Bella Union, for all of their time and help.

“I've been where the sun don't shine
I've been where the trees have all died
I've been where there's no pathway or door
And I'm not afraid anymore”

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